I always feel sad when reading threads like this - people like StartingOver13 so desperate to get back into the good graces of the organisation that has abused them so badly, having to suffer miserably while waiting. This just shows how effective the mind control and shunning system is. My wife was the same while waiting to be reinstated - so stressed and miserable and then when it happened she was so happy until the reality of "never being good enough" set in and she became miserable again. The people who devised and maintain this system are total b@st@rds.
Frazzled UBM
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Reinstatement via Old Cong.
by startingover13 ini've applied to be reinstatement in a new city after attending meetings for a bit.
i wrote my letter and they heard my case.
they were very helpful.
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Ireland and UK friends
by Berengaria inif one had but three weeks to see the best of these, what are some of the musts in your opinion?.
besides london.. .
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Frazzled UBM
qcf - yes Slough tops my list too - but seriously I would recommend Connemara in the West Coast of Ireland, the Giant's Causeway in Northern Ireland, the Gow Peninsula in South West Wales, Monmouthshire in South Wales, Snowdonia in Noth Wales; The Lakes District and Cornwall in England; Edinburgh, the Highlands (Glencoe and B en Nevis) and the West Coast and Hebrides Islands in Scotland...
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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...
by 2pink inmy husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
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Frazzled UBM
hi 2pink - good for you in getting an attorney. Don't worry about the ignorant judgemental advice about your kids and your marriage - this is par for the course here at JWN, particularly from those like Gustv Cintrn, who are still controlled by cult thinking. Good luck, Fraz
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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...
by 2pink inmy husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
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Frazzled UBM
What was your degree in? What family and other support do you have access to to help you care for your kids? Are there government run centres who can look after your kids for you for part of the day? Do you need to upgrade your skills? Do you have IT or design or other sorts of skills that lend themselves to home based work? On the other hand you might want to work in an office environment at least part of the week to give you some social interaction? tactically though you might want to remain as a stay at home Mum at least until the divroce settlement is finalised (as that will increase your prospects of a generous payout) and spend the time studying for your future career. I would suggest you ignore the conservative "keep the marriage together at any cost" types - you don't need to explain yourself.
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Witnesses are like a "typical male"... Always trying to "fix" things or "solve" everything.
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know the cliche that "men never really listen or sympathise, they just try to solve or fix things"?.
often people just need to vent or discuss issues..."get them off their chest".
i have noticed that jws are just like a thoughtless cliched man..... when speaking with people in the community, they don't really listen, they just look for a way to solve the issue!.
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Frazzled UBM
Interesting observation but not that surprising considering the patriarchial nature of the organisation from inception to now. The ironic aspect of this though is that the congregation is so heavily female.
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BORG running low on $$$??
by fader77 indear brothers:.
re: personal literature supply.
reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.
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Frazzled UBM
This just reflects the change in the business model - previously they made money from the literature so the more the better - now they make money from the subscriptions from members and the literature is promotional material to gain and retain members but has been superseded to some extent by JW.org so less is more.
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should i marry and have a child with my partner
by stevepill inhi, iv'e been a regular observer on this site for a while and would be very grateful for input from witnessess and non-witnessess.
ti widll try keep it brief to avoid too much reading!.
background:.
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Frazzled UBM
Too harsh smiddy - and unfair - this forum is a good choice to get advice with this issue as he is unlikely to have acquaintances who have relevant expereince with the issue. As long as he realises that as with any advice on this forum you have to weed the good advice from the rubbish.
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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...
by 2pink inmy husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
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Frazzled UBM
Get yourself a good divorce lawyer - as a long-term stay at home Mum you can expect to get custody of the kids, substantial alimony and a good sized stake in the family home. Be careful that you don't squander the family assets on lawyers by arguing about insiginificant issues such as who get what furtniure etc. Focus on the big picture of custody, child support and sharfe of assets/family home. Go hard early and then negotiate a favourable settlement. Butr remember that once divided the family income and living arrangements will not be as good as they were when you married - so you will have to budget and manage your kids expectations. But it sounds like it will be worth it to get out of this marriage.
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should i marry and have a child with my partner
by stevepill inhi, iv'e been a regular observer on this site for a while and would be very grateful for input from witnessess and non-witnessess.
ti widll try keep it brief to avoid too much reading!.
background:.
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Frazzled UBM
stevepill - to understand how difficult this is read some of my early posts. I stopped my wife from taking my son and now she has stopped going so we have made a lot of progress but there are residual issues around emotional intimacy - the legacy of being brought up as a witness is emotional dyfunction. So be very wary but it is not all bad. PM me if you want to chat further. Fraz
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Scottish independance in two days what do you think?
by barry inone thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.
if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?
even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .
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Frazzled UBM
cofty - thanks for that fantastic photo